While the musicians wind up getting most of our attention, music fans have no shortage of love for the Lighting Directors! Operating the lights along improvisational music is no easy feat, and having a highly skilled LD can propel a band’s live show into a new dimension. It’s with that in mind that Dopapod’s Lighting Director, Luke Stratton, launched a podcast called “The Light Side,” focusing on this impressive craft.

In the first episode, Stratton interviewed Jefferson Waful, best known for his work with Umphrey’s McGee. Today, he returns with a second episode, talking to Greg Ellis. Ellis is the LD for an artist who has lights in his very name, Pretty Lights. Naturally, being the LD for Pretty Lights comes with its challenges, but Ellis has succeeded in harnessing the Pretty Lights name in his luminescent displays. The two talk about Ellis’s background in lighting design, the history of equipment used in the show, and specific details on how Ellis and Pretty Lights are able to put on one of the biggest productions in the American EDM scene.

Check out the new episode, streaming below!